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 Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: neolithic grain mill at stonehenge |
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hi, i am new here.
i am the author of a new theory of the ancient use of stonehenge based on architectural engineering. please visit our website at, http://www.granaryatstonehenge.org
there you can see several videos of our working model of the wind-powered grain mill at stonehenge as it would have looked 3,000 years ago.
please post your responses both good and bad, and i will answer each one.
thank you,
clyde |
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Richard Haut
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Location: Nice, France
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Clyde
your website is intriguing, but it makes a number of assumptions which I would question.
firstly, the nature of the "mill" itself. What you describe is I believe known as a gristmill for grinding corn into flour. Such mills use millstones (plural) - one on top of the other. They do not use timber over stone - would it manage to grind at all ?
secondly the purpose of the power of the mill is to turn the stones. Are there any examples before about the first Century BC of such technology ? Early technology of this type was, I believe, watermills - with wind-power coming much later and certainly not using the more advanced sail technology (was this thought of even a Millenium later ?)
you are using a post-industrial revolution eye in observing an ancient structure.
sorry, but I just do not see how your view of the stonehenge-mill could have functioned, or why it would have been needed in such a unique and bizarre form. OK, I disagree with your conclusions, but it is a very enjoyable website.
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: Interesting theory, and modern applications... |
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Beatles, count me of Rich's side of doubting the use of Stonehenge for a grinding mill of any sorts.
If anything, the Stonehenge architecture was used to pinpoint the planting and harvesting times of the surrounding wheat fields. It was also used in funeral services, fertility services, royal crowning and birthing services, as probably best explained by the book Uriel's Machine, by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, 2000.
What the locals of Stonehenge know, is that the well-known tourist location is only one of 50 or so astronomical locations in the surrounding area.
Stonehenge was an agricultural complex, arranged I believe with an astronomical theology of sorts, with similar structures all over the world.
Grinding grain was just one spoke on the wheel of a good harvest, as provided by the Gods. I cannot name any other "grinding facility" of this large size, anywhere in the world, in any period of history. Please prove me wrong on this, but I can't name one example.
Having said all that, your animated grinding wheel is a superb example of what should be installed on the ocean floors near coastal areas, in heavy water current areas, for turbine engines to produce electric energy. It is a perfect model for a modern applications.
Very interesting example. Thank you.
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: Using Google Earth and Photoshop, once again.... |
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Clyde/Beatles...
In further research of the surrounding countryside of Stonehenge, I have come across another King profile of sorts. I caution everyone that these faint images seem to be layered among several competing other layers, other graphics, other geoglyphs, indicating many phases, many different cultural influences of the 8000 year old Stonehenge story.
First image, Stonehenge "sun circle" in the 7 o'clock position, with highway A344 running diagonal left to right, and converging with A303 in the 5:30 poisition.
At the convergence of highways A344 and A303 is the "King 1" profile explained earlier. Note: both King profiles are looking West, the "sunset of life", death.
Using color enhancers in Photoshop, I compared the "sun circle" with the top oblong shadow "King 2" and the bottom right "King 1". At least 20 minor altars and lesser sub-surface "sun circles" can be observed under closer scrutiny within this image.
Finally, the top dead center of this image is an oblong shaped shadow, which I am now calling "King 2" with helmet and pivoted chin guard (faintly highlighted in white points). The presence of metal pinions which allow the chin guard of the helmet to swivel seem to indicate a more modern King, I am guessing in the 400 BC to 400 AD range. Next to it is the same image, cropped as best I can, with the facial image tilted 24 degrees clockwise. The traditional Stonehenge "sun circle" is in the 6 o'clock position.
Between the image of the oblong shadow "King 2", and the "King 1" image to the bottom right, there seems to be a third figure, but his image is even less clear.
So to the many functions of Stonehenge, I think I confirm some form of "funerary tomb for Royal Kings".
I will be sending this information to the BBC and to Sheffield University, who are studying these ruins very successfully.
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