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Jeff Snyder
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 Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: Snow Leopard and PC 6 |
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Anyone have an opportunity to try PowerCADD 6.2.1 with Snow Leopard? Engineered Web Site says it will not work, but it also says it will not work with 10.5 (which it does).
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paulprd
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| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:03 am Post subject: |
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For info 7 does not not work with SL even if you install rosetta so I doubt very much if 6 will.
ES actually say 10.4 is the last supported system. Anyone running above is effectively on their own.
If you have intel it makes sense to upgrade to 8 as its vastly superior and a small price to pay compared to the cost of hardware.
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paulprd
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| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:03 am Post subject: |
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For info 7 does not not work with SL even if you install rosetta so I doubt very much if 6 will.
ES actually say 10.4 is the last supported system. Anyone running above is effectively on their own.
If you have intel it makes sense to upgrade to 8 as its vastly superior and a small price to pay compared to the cost of hardware.
cheers
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Davydd
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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I had been using Powercadd 6.2.1 with 10.5 and I just installed Snow Leopard and it looks like it is working with that too. I don't use it much other than some home remodeling projects on my house but I did draw a detailed outdoor wood-fired brick bread oven with seemingly no hitches in 10.5.
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pauldowns
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: Six works fine |
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| for me on 10.5.8 It's not an Intel mac, though. |
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Matt
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Just curious to ask those of you who have an irresistible compulsion to stay current with the operating system but not your drawing program... what's up with that? Is the OS more related to your productivity? I can understand those who always want to have the bleeding edge, and I can understand those who have a policy of not changing what works for them, but the question at hand, well, I'm baffled. |
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Jeff Snyder
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Cost of upgrading to PowerCadd 8 and latest Wild Tools: $ 675.00
(PowerCadd 6 has worked fine for me for years).
Cost of upgrading OS to 10.6: $ 29.00
(It will give me mail and calendar compatibility out of the box with our office Exchange server).
Oh, and the economy stinks and I can't get my boss to upgrade 10 stations.
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Matt
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| And what is the cost of those ten people's lost productivity due to shortsighted using obsolete software as your major productivity environment -- for example due to the crappy dwg translator in PC6? |
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phansford
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
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Location: SW Ohio
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: |
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No offense Matt - but there wasn't a huge jump in productivity from PC 6 to PC8. The issue of the DWG translater is a valid observation, but some sort of loss productivity between PC 6 and PC 8..... what in micro seconds? We aren't talking about lose of days or even hours to produce a set of documents using one version over the other.
And DWG translation is only an issue if you need to translate your files. With many of my projects being interior renovations, small additions, design/build - I don't need to translate a lot of drawings. I have two projects this year where I have an M/P/E and I need to translate files. And I am still in business.
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Jeff Snyder
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I'd love to upgrade, but I also have to upgrade 9 of 10 machines to get the Intel processor required for PC8. Yikes. Now we're talking some cash.
I have two tools up my sleeve to deal with the dwg translation issue:
DWG-DXF Converter
eDrawings
Could not survive without them.
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phansford
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Jeff -
We're all doing with less and developing workarounds to keep things afloat.
I'm personally squeezing the life out of two aging small printers - keeping two old G4's in operation to run my scanner and cameramate drive. I just don't want to spend money on cameras, scanners, printers when what I have works and provides the service I need.
There are things I want...... and things I need. No one looks at a set of documents and says..... "What the heck - why are you still using PC6?" 
The intel machines are very nice and if you can make that migration - however slowly over the next year - you'll be happy.
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paulprd
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: |
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WoW 6 works with snowy, I am amazed and impressed with the 6 coding under the hood.
The economy is bad, we all know this. Spending money is not at the top of the list. But its worth having an eye on the future. When you come to buy a printer in a years time you may well find that it just wont run on older kit. So for the want of an A4 cheapo printer you may have no choice but to upgrade the whole lot Thats progress, producers use the latest technologies to deliver their latest products. Keeping pace over a 2 to 3 year period when you average out is not a major expense. Only when its left till it has to be done does it become painful.
We budget to replace at least every 2 years sometimes 3. Averaged out this equates to a few $ a day.
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phansford
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| paulprd wrote: | Keeping pace over a 2 to 3 year period when you average out is not a major expense. Only when its left till it has to be done does it become painful.
We budget to replace at least every 2 years sometimes 3. Averaged out this equates to a few $ a day. |
Paul - that works in a normal economy..... and I think most of us do the same...... but these are extraordinary times.
Right now - people are looking to make their investments as wisely as possible. My printers are fine.... love to have a new all-in-one unit.... but I don't NEED it. Love to have a new camera.... but I don't NEED it. 
We all have to determine what is the wisest decisions for ourselves. Not what others think is wise. |
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paulprd
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Sorry not meaning to sound 'preachy'! Just my take on the long haul beyond this financial crisis. I know when things are tight the last thing one wants to do is spend! Its a shame that 8 is intel only, I know there was nothing ES could do about this. Makes an upgrade expensive if you are on PPC.
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GaryV
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| paulprd wrote: | | <cut>....Its a shame that 8 is intel only, I know there was nothing ES could do about this. Makes an upgrade expensive if you are on PPC. |
That's it in a nutshell. I am sure it is not only an issue for end users but for ES too. If there was a more flexible upgrade route, they would be benefiting ($$) too, as they should. Too bad but there just aren't workarounds sometimes. Hopefully a new machine will be in cards soon but I am guessing it might be a while.  Right now the focus is getting a job!
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