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htd_00
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 Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: Suggestions on Roof Design..Help needed |
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Remodel of a 1950's Custom Mid-Century Modern Home.
I need to add HVAC and run new supply lines throughout our slab on grade home. I have been struggling with how I can create enough space above to make room for these systems, but also try and maintain the style of the home. Anyone have any thoughts on what would look good.
Should I try and stay with a low-sloped and flat combination or change to a 3/12 hip style roof.
One other issue I am struggling with is the idea to increase the ceiling height in our Master bedroom, bathroom. It is currently only 7 1/2' which is not much a problem with me, but I think it would be for resale.
Photos and info here http://www.fifties-remodel.blogspot.com/
I appreciate any constructive input.
Cheers...
-Travis |
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csintexas
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Hi Travis,
Well, if you have a designer working for you than perhaps you should find someone else but if this is all your work than I would say you are doing pretty well so far and off to a good start. I only say that because you mention having a designer but all these drawings are clearly amateur. I don't mean that as an insult to you. If you just bought some cheap software and did this yourself than I am impressed with what you have accomplished.
I don't see an existing plan so it is hard to judge the changes you have made also I don't see one complete new plan so it is hard to tell exactly what you are proposing.
The existing form is basically a ranch style and so a 3/12 roof would be appropriate. I think you have identified the major problem with the entry area.
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phansford
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
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Location: SW Ohio
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Suggestions on Roof Design..Help needed |
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Travis - Nice work.
| htd_00 wrote: | | I need to add HVAC and run new supply lines throughout our slab on grade home. I have been struggling with how I can create enough space above to make room for these systems, but also try and maintain the style of the home. Anyone have any thoughts on what would look good. |
Well - you can't go and cut the slab just to insert some duct work. A few plumbing pipes - certainly.... ductwork....... now thats extreme. 
There is nothing wrong with duct work being exposed in a Modern Design. Since your house is a close cousin to the Case Study' Houses - you might look there for answers. Look into some books and see what they did.... or find some books on rehabs of mid-centuries and see if you can find some ideas there. Search "Case Study Houses" at Amazon and you come up with plenty of books. The Taschen series are very nice. Lots of photos and easy on the wallet.
Its hard - not being able to personally review the mechanical system - ` to give you solid advice, but we can give you some general ideas.
If the issues is one end of the house not getting enough cooling/heat, you might consider a second system. You might try using the high velocity ducts for the tight spaces. Maybe you can drop the ceiling in the hall or add soffits to the rooms to run/hide the ducts.
The best thing to do is to work with a local architect who is sensitive to the style of the house. Hire them on an hourly consulting basis. Maybe buy 4 hours of their time to come up with ideas and sketches on how to handle the ductwork.
The other possibility is to add additional heat/cooling on a room by room basis. Electric base board - inline duct heater - and so on.
| htd_00 wrote: | | Should I try and stay with a low-sloped and flat combination or change to a 3/12 hip style roof. |
I not really following you here. Are you talking about added new roofs to conceal the duct work? If so, that seems extreme.
| htd_00 wrote: | | One other issue I am struggling with is the idea to increase the ceiling height in our Master bedroom, bathroom. It is currently only 7 1/2' which is not much a problem with me, but I think it would be for resale. |
If you are thinking about changing the roof line - you will end up having to reconstruct all the exterior walls to that end of the house. Its doubtful the building code would allow to just extend the wall.
Forget resale....... it takes a special person to purchase a Modern house. Too many people want a "colonial". The clg heights are part of the Modernist design of these mid-century houses/buildings. Do the changes for yourself and your family. If you want to improve the volumetic quality of the Master Bedroom - do it for you and your wife to enjoy. Take down that whole end of the house and create a wonderful Master Bath for her and good sized closets. Who knows.... maybe you'll actually get a few feet of rod for your clothes.
You have done a GREAT job on this house and you truly understand the Modern design - keep up the good work.
BTW - Where (what state) is the house located? I am assuming out west and possibly California. Obviously location will determine the resale interest in the house, but still...... do things you like. |
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nanrehvasconez
Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: |
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hi Travis!
for the size of HVAC system that you may require to retrofit this home, the easyer way will be by using custom flat (rectangular) ducts 4"x whichever width is necessary to provide the cfm required, placed on top of the flat roof. to consil the ducts just increase the size of the facia from the 12" to perhaps 16", the AC unit can be placed on the roof consealed in a replica of the very nice chiminey you already have. The 7'-6" high roof I assume is at the bottom of the open beam ceilings, common way of building way back then, you hav4e a lovely home. |
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