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Ruaa
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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Location: Iraq
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 Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: hi need help....plz!! |
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my final project 4 graduation is about wellness resort or u could say physical therapy resort
i can't find any project like this type with it's floor plans, all i found is 4 tourist & not architecture
i wanna some projects if any1 have or give me some links about this projects
thanx alot 2 every1....
Ruaa from Iraq |
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teamjdc
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: |
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I think it's wonderful that you can't find anything and I hope that nobody here facilitates your laziness and the fraud that your grades will be.
Your posting history is nothing but looking for complete projects. You're lazy, stupid or both.
Please don't take this personally. It's directed at every single alleged student of architecture who posts here looking for handouts.
There are three important concepts for an architect and it makes my blood boil when I see posts like this.
1) You must be able to synthesize or you learn nothing and create less.
2) You must have the ability to use the resources available to get the information you need. (asking a forum for this kind of help is not a resource)
3) You must be smart. |
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lekizz
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: |
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And of course architecture students must expect to deal with harsh criticism 
I can only begin to guess what a Wellness Resort is... a Health Spa? |
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Onome Igho
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| try using google image search to find floor plans |
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Ruaa
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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thank u 4 help....
and teamjdc .. u don't know how we live in iraq & u don't know even how much i searched but here we don't have any facilities more than the net & we can't go 2 a library coz we don't know when a bomb car will explode in ur face & kill u, plus we don't have a library (good library) books in that field or new magazines..
i'm 1 of the effective & hard-working students in my stage with very good marks .. i'm no. 4 in my stage range & i'm so thankfull 2 u coz u said a speech like that so that u will know that there's some people in the world not living like u & don't have all the facilities u have( i don't know even where r u living)
thank ur god about ur godsends & don't deciding on people from a post
i hope u won't hurt another person by a reply & leave him bleeding more than he is.
sorry about my words but iraqi people is hurted enough & can't bear any more wound. |
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starkca3
Joined: 10 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| wellness resort???...i'm guessing health spa...physical therapy resort? I though physical therapy was meant to be painful and intense? I think your choice of words might be hurting!!! O_O |
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Ruaa
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: |
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ya may b ..
but not more than wt i read in the 1st reply
sorry i think the suitable words is (HEALTH RESORTS) or ( PHYSICAL THERAPY RESORTS)
thanx 4 notify me...
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lekizz
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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It must be tough training in Iraq, I agree. But I can't understand how anyone can train as an architect without access to books, magazines and physical resources. The internet is not a great place to get detailed floor plans, information and analysis of buildings.
The problem I still have is understanding what a "wellness resort" is. Do you know what a "wellness resort" is? I'm not sure you do. What does a wellness resort include? Is it a hospital, or a water spa, or a gym, or maybe is it a holiday camp?!
If you are starting your final design project, you will know you should start by describing and listing the requirements for your resort. Maybe after you have done that, you will know how big (or small) your project is, what sort of precedent you need to find, what you already know and what other things you need to find out. |
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teamjdc
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Ruaa wrote: | thank u 4 help....
and teamjdc .. u don't know how we live in iraq & u don't know even how much i searched but here we don't have any facilities more than the net & we can't go 2 a library coz we don't know when a bomb car will explode in ur face & kill u, plus we don't have a library (good library) books in that field or new magazines..
i'm 1 of the effective & hard-working students in my stage with very good marks .. i'm no. 4 in my stage range & i'm so thankfull 2 u coz u said a speech like that so that u will know that there's some people in the world not living like u & don't have all the facilities u have( i don't know even where r u living)
thank ur god about ur godsends & don't deciding on people from a post
i hope u won't hurt another person by a reply & leave him bleeding more than he is.
sorry about my words but iraqi people is hurted enough & can't bear any more wound. |
I honestly do sympathize.
However, what I don't understand us how you have internet access, you found this site, yet you seem incapable of doing a proper search.
I found these two in a feww minutes:
http://www.taunovobay.com/?p=central_resort
http://ppfglobal.com/index_files/Page812.htm
The thing is, if you want to be an architect you must be able to gather information and sythesize solutions. You don't simply find what's been done, you determine the needs and fill them.
You need to develop a program. Think about what the facility is for. What uses are there? What spaces do you need? How do they interact?
That's the most important part of design. Architecture is not just taking someone's idea of what's needed and changing the way the exterior looks.
I'm having a very hard time believing you're ready to graduate with a degree in architecture. |
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Ruaa
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: |
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thanx lekizz
i know it's a big project include a various functions like dwelling units & the main functions like spa, massage, fitness, ext...
i know that i shoud study the function & meaning in the same time.. so that i wanna c enough examples 2 make a panorama in this subject & know wt we need in the project
I'm sorry if i disturb any1 in the forum.. & thank u teamjdc about the links & ur advices, do u know the iraqi people is 1 of the most intellegent people? (i'm really not talking about myself..) but u can c the doctors & engineerings & lawyers in the whole world making wonderfull success, i think that's because they don't have the knowledge or wt they want easily, so when they get it they r creative in it
thank u about everything, i'll send u my projects 2 c how is the study in iraq speacialy in Mosul city.. it's still hard inspite of the country difficults & war. |
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keyserni
Joined: 13 Sep 2006
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Location: Belfast, United Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| It should not really matter where he is studying, teamjdc found projects on the net easily enough so then should have ruaa. The internet is usually a poor source of information when you are looking for in depth analysis. I am not a big fan of precedent. I never start a project by looking at precedent as it is just another thing to cloud your mind about where and how to start the process. I always look at precedent when I need to refine my ideas. |
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teamjdc
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Hey Ru, I don't give a damn where you live or what nationality you are.
This is an architecture forum. If you want to talk about world strife or have a pissing match about the relative intelligence of ethic groups, perhaps you should be elsewhere.
I find your statement about creativity to be incredibly ironic.
And enough of the pity party. Did you notice where keyserni is from? Life hasn't exactly been a picnic there for quite some time.
BTW, my parents had to run from bombs and nazis. Never once did
I hear them use that chapter of their lives as an excuse.
So please, enough of your bullshit. |
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Ruaa
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: |
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ok thank u verymuch about ur wonderfull speech
i just wanna help about a project.. i don't force u 2 answer me or help me, wt do u know about life? i know this is an architecture forum that's why i asked the help here but u made me talk like that about my country life...
i found examples, thanx 4 Onome Igho it's very good help, i was using yahoo search only
anyway.. there was a beneft answers & thanks 4 every1 hepled me with chest vastness
thanx about everything.. |
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lekizz
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| I often like your direct, no nonsense approach, teamjdc, but you are going a bit far now. To compare Northern Ireland with Iraq is a bit of a joke, surely?! I'm quite sure Queen's College, Belfast, has excellent facilities, well regulated courses and far fewer bewildered students as a result. At least Ruaa has bothered to come back and respond (in a second or third language no doubt), which is far less than most students bother to do. |
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Ruaa
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: |
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it's ok lekizz
i think he don't know iraq or wt happened in it
he's right, i should not talk about the situation as 1 of our excuses
it's apersonal thing & can't explain it ..
u r right, i'm talking in english & this is the 2nd launguage here and it will b the 3rd soon, but this is not matter 2 me.. i wanna go on in my project in any language & anyway |
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