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jp2123



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jp2123

Well here is a quick sketch. Nothing is final, everything is probably out of proportion cause I did not have a ruler to take measures. But is just an Idea of what the interior might look like. BTW some lines didnt go thru so...





Please any comments? I know this is bad, but is just a quick sketch
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

Certainly I will.

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jp2123



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jp2123

Ok here is one that i did with a computer program. It probably looks a lot better than the other one Smile lol

tell me what you think. I know almost nothing about plans, and i just started reading the part about orders of rooms in the places of house.



Thanks SDR
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Madimel

jp,
it's a good start, and you'll learn a lot more when you attend architecture school, and even more when you start working. Working a house plan from the inside out is a good way to start understanding circulation, relationships and efficiency of a floor plan. Keep in mind that architecture is a process, a process that is unique to the designer. The question that I ask every intern is, "how did you imprint your signature into this design?". By the way, you should tell all of us how the interview went.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

Well that's interesting. I guess there are more bedrooms upstairs ? In the upper left corner, is that a media (TV) room, with a sliding door ?

I wonder what the large empty space is for, in the middle of the plan ? Perhaps the owners give dance lessons ? Wouldn't the bedroom and the TV room be larger if the little hallway-to-nowhere between them was eliminated ?

Well, that's enough questions. The plan is neatly drawn, with just enough color to be interesting. Quite handsome. The only obvious errors are that the solid walls should be broken where a door appears. I think the little "powder room" (or lavatory or half-bath) near the kitchen could be a bit more generous, and the door could be placed facing the kitchen where it would give a bit more sense of privacy to the user, considering how near the dining table is.

The plan should be placed adjacent to the other views when you present, so the viewer can compare the two, to see how the exterior relates to the the interior layout and vice versa.

Best of luck tomorrow. Let us know how it goes.

SDR
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jp2123



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jp2123

thanks

yeah there are more bedrooms upstairs with the idea that i have now is going to be 3 more upstairs.

Btw im going to the interview right now... still not really nervous hope i stay like this lol
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jp2123

well im back. Thanks for everyone that has giving me feedback and comments and anything like that.

I wouldn't say i did great, but I guess i did good. He liked my drawings... Don't know about the actual designs. I don't know how, but i knew everything i was going to say about the floor plan and i just plainly forgot. And then when they were giving me the tour i remembered everything i was supossed to say.

The guy who interview me was really cool, and he said he actually use the same free program i use sometimes lol... anyways

I really hope i get accepted, and even mentioned this forums lol

Well we will see in a couple of weeks Neutral
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

Best of luck. You have a great adventure before you.

I expect that school will get you thinking more "inside out" rather than "outside in." In the meantime, get a sketchbook and draw from nature and from the environment around you. A good and useful drawing can be made of the most humble subjects; it's about observing, and drawing what's there, not what you would like to see or think the subject ought to look like.

Even though you will be drawing a lot on the computer, hand drawing teaches you to see, feel, absorb and think. It's very important -- not all good ideas come full-blown from inside !

Look at architecture everywhere, both around you and in books. When you come upon spaces that make you feel good, study them to find out why.

This is the life of the architectural designer. Enjoy the trip !

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jp2123



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jp2123

thanks SDR im going to see if I can finish the whole floor plan with the second floor too. So you guys can give me some more feedback
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jp2123

here is the 2nd level... Give me some feedback. And SDK i made the rooms in the first floor larger and shrinked a little bit the hallway.



One thing i must say is that in the thing i used you cant do curves like semicircles... And in the second floor there is a wall that is just windows. As you see in the first floor the semi circle corridor which you cant really see but whatever... in the second floor that semi circle wall is just windows that if positioned right (in my idea) will be directly to where the sun sets.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

Okay. Then, it would be normal to see the two plans (upper and lower) shown together, so that one can see how the forms (walls, stairs, chimneys, bathrooms, etc) align, and to be able to imagine navigating through and around the structure. This is for both an aesthetic and a functional assessment of the design.

Only you can judge whether you would be comfortable in the various spaces of this house.

Another kind of drawing that would describe the design is the section, a vertical cut through the house that would show the width and height of the rooms that are transected by the cut, which usually also acts as an elevation drawing of everything seen beyond the cut (just as the plan shows what is on the floor). Each kind of drawing shows the structure in a different way, highlighting strengths and weaknesses of the design that are invisible, or not emphasized, in the other drawings. By making these drawings and studying them, the designer sees the things that were not in mind during the original mental conception, and can decide whether they need adjustment.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jp2123

btw i figured a way of doing the 3D design inside, and is working kinda good.

Hmm, do you mean like the the floor plans with the width and lenghts of the rooms. If is that, well I will need to do some research cause im not very familiar with siezes and things like that.

I understand, but can you give me some feedback on like if you think something is a good idea or not?
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jp2123



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jp2123

hey hmm... just felt to tell you guys that today i recieved the latter, and i didnt get accepted into the college of architecture... Right now i dont know what to do and i need some advice. If it were you, what would you do in your fist year of college? I ceratinly dont know if i want to change majors, i dont have anything else to look for, i love doing this and is what i want to do. So right now what im thinking is try next year and take some classes.

Please i need some advice right now...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

I guess you will have to decide if architecture is where you belong.

Desire is important -- in fact is it essential. But it isn't the only essential to a successful career in any profession.

If you could look at the work you have done so far, as if you were another person, what would your assessment of it be ? How would you criticize it ? What are its strengths and weaknesses ? How does it compare to work by others, amateur or professional, that you like ?

Have you begun to keep a sketchbook ? Are you drawing new ideas, and also sketching from the world around you ? Or are you only interested in what you can make with SketchUp ?

Is there any guidance available at the last school you attended ? It would be good to have some help in deciding if architecture is a good fit for you, or if it should become a pleasure for your free time rather than your future profession. I chose not to pursue a career in architecture, and instead it became a lifelong subject for study and and a pleasure unconstrained by the obligations of the workplace. I had a long and fulfilling career as a cabinetmaker and woodworker.

Seek local guidance. Ask to speak to architects in your area; one of them maybe able to help you decide.

SDR
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by phansford

Well as you probably noticed..... the world did not end. And in fact there are many more possibilities for you to pursue.

First - Call the school. Ask the questions SDR possed. What is it they "didn't" see in your portfolio or interview.

Second - Ask the school if there is a waiting list and were are you on that list. Not everyone they accept is going to chose UNCC and there will be openings.

Third - There a lots of other schools out there looking for you. Check out NAAB for a list of accredited schools and apply for more than one.
http://www.naab.org/

Fourth - There are lots of ways to become an architect....... I personally did not follow the traditional route. I have a BS in Technology from BGSU . When I was in the program, it was not as strong as it is today..... I am also the first person to become an Architect out of that program. Mostly because - I took my BGSU education and went to Miami University ...... the real Miami.... not at posser in Florida...... As we say.... Miami was a university when the Spanish owned Florida. Laughing

So you might think of a more untraditional tract. Possible a contruction degree or another university.

SIDEBAR..... You might not have been accepted because the professors are looking for clones or people they think they might "like"..... sometimes these decisions are not rational. So don't beat yourself up.

A FINAL COMMENT -

SDR makes a very good point.... this is profession is about passion. You seem to have that passion. Hard work can bring talent. And a lot of people get into architecture and they find out they don't have the passion. My assistant who is talented in drawings, model building, composition just decided that after seven years of schools (4 yrs undergraduate - 3 yrs graduate school) that she does not have the passiion it takes......... This is really sad. She has put herself through utter hell for 7 years (that is what Architecture school is) only to figure out she isn't going to finish graduate school and is leaving the profession. She has a few things to complete for me and she will be gone.

So as you go thru this whole thing.... remember... do I really have the passion for this.... is this what I want to eat, sleep, breath 24/7. And its okay to decide.... No this isn't for me.

But this profession is HUGE and has room for many people with many talents. Whether you are a traditional architect such as myself or a cabinetmaker such as SDR, or a contractor like a friend of mine. Construction is a vast industry and you can find something you like.

So stick to it and get your application/portfolio out to some other schools One door just got shut..... but a window just opened..... and the sunshine is warming your soul.
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