Manchester or Strathclyde?


 
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Danielz



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Manchester or Strathclyde? Reply with quoteFind all posts by Danielz

I got unconditional offers from both.
Manchester( + : 3 years, manchester sounds good in the cv, - : you have to pay 3147 a year)
Strathclyde (+ : it's free , - : 4 years, not well known university)

Guardian rankings change every year. Last year strath was 3rd, now its in very low position.Manchester is about at the same position as last year (5th).

I really don't have any insights into these universities.

Maybe you could help with the choice.
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keyserni



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by keyserni

Strathclyde University as a whole may not be excellent but its Architecture department is very good but then so is Manchester’s. Personally, I would go with Strathclyde because for a start, it is cheaper and you can do the extra year for your Masters. Don't trust any rankings it's better to make a visit to the campus but the one I found most helpful was http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk because it took into account the things I was looking for student satisfaction, research, entry requirements and what job prospects you have at the end of it among other things.

One of the good things about Architecture is that your works speaks for itself and in no school if you want a good degree do you get it easy. In architecture our not just given a job on the reputation of your University and your grade but the work in your portfolio as well. Every school is accredited for a reason, it met the standards and the RIBA/ARB has high standards. A classmate of mine came third in an all Ireland competition and still only got a B+ for his work from the lecturers.

Do not confuse a Universities reputation with a department’s reputation. The head of school at Strathclyde moderated my work at the end of first year and I meet him again at the end of second year but he didn’t moderate me that time, he seemed an ok guy.

Did you not have any opinions on the schools when you submitted your portfolio? It was talking to the lecturers from the different universities that helped me decide.
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Danielz



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Danielz

You see - the particular problem I have - I'm from Lithuania.
I visited England during the summer. I did make it to Manchester, however the architecture department was closed. Strath didn't make it to the trip.
That is why insights are important to me.
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keyserni



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by keyserni

Both departments are good but if your intending to practice in your home country I think Manchester would carry more weight. Some of the schools produce end of year booklets showcasing all their students work and they usually give some detail on the projects. If you can dl the booklets have a look and see what intersts you more.
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Danielz



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Danielz

Thank you for the replies.

News update : Strath isn't free. It's just cheaper. It's ~ 1700 pounds.

I'm more into engineering in architecture, not art. I like drafting, Bauhauz, constructyvism. Which school has a bigger emphasis on that?

I think I will work in the UK,US or Germany. Not Lithuania. Does Strath has an international reputation in these countries?
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keyserni



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by keyserni

No but RIBA accreditation carries weight with those countries. You get your qualification from the university but you are accredited by the RIBA. You know that if you study in the UK and gain RIBA accreditation it does not automatically mean you can practice or call yourself an architect in other countries? Most countries have different rules on the subject. To be honest I doubt you can tell what Arch schools have those leanings now, I would say they have an appreciation for every style. I know my school is in no way rigid with style you are free to do whatever you want. Without personally talking to the faculties in question, it will be hard to know the answer to questions like that. What I am saying is pick up the phone.

PS Manchester’s arch degree is art based (BA) whereas Strathclyde’s is science based (BSc).
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RanjeetS



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by RanjeetS

Hi. I went to manchester, and i have to say that it was fairly good. However, it is entirely design based. You can get through the degree without having a single inkling on construction or technology. In fact more emphasis on this is what myself and others were continually asking for (but to no avail). I mean the tech side of the course counts for 20/120 credits, with 80 going to design.

Also, we had quite a few internationals in my year alone, including some from your neck of the woods (Latvia, Russia, Finland etc i think)
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