Lim Geo Dang House by IROJE KHM Architects

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:56 am    Post subject: Lim Geo Dang House by IROJE KHM Architects Reply with quoteFind all posts by Kevin

From Contemporist in the AW blog center...

Lim Geo Dang House by IROJE KHM Architects
http://www.ArchitectureWeek.com/blogs/link.php?id=44915



"The wooden board, that could express the property of matter itself, is selected for the main material of outer wall. Because it is expected to keep a naturalness and a slowness with deep flavor as a life that is changeably correspondently lives according to the flow of time that has historical character. Moreover, it is a kind of repulsion against western wooden house. To bring the wooden board into modern woody, the exposed concrete, which is an artificial stone either an expression of time, is used as a basic material and intended the mutual harmony."

More photos at Contemporist:
http://www.contemporist.com/2009/10/08/lim-geo-dang-house-by-iroje-khm-architects/

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

Wow. Well, who can't admire a tour-de-force of building craft, for one thing ?

The generous supply of photos celebrate the exterior spaces of the lower floors; perhaps the interiors are nothing special to see ?

Don't you love the variety of material textures that one encounters all around (and underfoot) as one penetrates those exposed/sheltered spaces. The balusters assembled with many small black T-straps are wonderful, to cite just one example. I also like the massive gapped planks of the decking at ground level. Of course the most obvious and unusual highlight is the paneled exterior cladding.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by djswan

Check out the neighbor houses, the one to the right looks nice, the one to the left is an eyesore with too many roof lines.
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Readers of Global Architecture, the mouth-watering Japanese periodical of new building both in Japan and around the world, have seen that phenomenon again and again; startling bald boxes of unusual form and detail, inserted into neighborhoods of traditional building. Scale is usually the uniting factor. . .

A comment following the photos mistakes this as a Japanese house; in fact it is in Korea.

I assume your work is of this quality, d ? Hey, wood is wood, around the world. Do they let you play like this, at least occasionally ? What do you think of all those metal bits and pieces ?

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Very Happy I'm allowed to play like that with permission of course, and sometimes without. I'm thinking about remodel as always.
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Wood and concrete....and H2O. There is steel in there too, lots of it. and concrete and wood. I'm predicting a gray wood patina with green moss concrete, rusty steel and fancy carp swimming in the basement.

edit: I lived in a wood and stone/concrete house in Golden, Co. built 1961. It's a relatively dry area. The doug fir joist held up to the decay except where the rot from the oak floor allowed water wicking from the concrete.

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Nice -- I can't wait. Now to restore it, before it begins to decay ?

Midway, the wood is turning from amber (it has darkened in the sun) to gray, unevenly; the concrete is stained somewhat from weather and air-borne smuts, and the steel is still unrusted, though faded to charcoal; maybe it has been painted dark green -- or iron oxide red -- by a subsequent owner with different tastes ?

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I must like this house or something. Weathered wood, mossy concrete and a carp pond still sounds cool. I like to remodel as soon as the house is built, set the standard from the start.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by phansford

SDR wrote:
Wow. Well, who can't admire a tour-de-force of building craft, for one thing ?

The generous supply of photos celebrate the exterior spaces of the lower floors; perhaps the interiors are nothing special to see ?


That's the thing for me..... yes the craftsmanship is very nice. The selection of the wood against the concrete seems very nice. But the absolute lack of interior photos is a problem. I have a feeling the interior is just a bunch of boxes. Crying or Very sad

The architect's desire to not do a "western wood house" is commendable, but to ignore certain aspects of that typology - which is the context for this house - is a problem for me.

This house and many other "neomodern" houses create the same problem as the late modern houses/building that were rejected in the 1970's - the new moderns are just as self-referential as the bad modern architects. Corbu's - Mies' - Kahn's work was very contextual..... this stuff is just objects planted on a site. There is NO attempt to make this project fit into its context and thus be a foil against the Korean McMansions.

Also - not to show the interior or the plan shows they did not attempt a discussion about how one lives or uses a house. The exterior living spaces seem to be isolated rather than connected to the interior space. That courtyard seems to be something for us to walk around (via the internal stairs) and look into but to never to access.

SDR - Just imagine if these architects had actually looked at the case study houses or the cool houses by Eichler and thought about the suburban condition and how the interior and exterior should be connected. Then this house would be interesting.

This eyewash bores me to no end.
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I really don't like to try to investigate a building in the absence of plan drawings. In this case, the seemingly excessive space given to open-air circulation might be defended -- or not -- if we knew what was going on in the reality of the building: it's usable volumes.

Similarly, when a building like this one is presented by a publication like the one I mentioned, there is usually an aerial photo, a neighborhood map, or some other means of appreciating the contextual situation. Here, we see only the edges of some nearby structures -- not enough, in my opinion, to make a judgment about the context for this house. But naturally we make the attempt, as it is such an important indicator of the appropriateness of the design.

So, we have a mystery house, and are left to admire only what we can see.

Maybe I'll do a search to see if anything else has been published. .maybe the architect's site ?

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Incidentally, the third from last photo on the Contemporist site shows a bit of interior space, including some interesting shelving and nothing that I can see to be ashamed of -- heightening the mystery as to why no other interior photos are presented.

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I checked the architect's site.... those photos and the description is from the architect.

As far as context, we can see enough in the photos to know this is a typical suburban development based on the western model. And you have to show the context to show why this is a good building.... it is treated by the architect themselves as a stand-alone object without concern for any type of context.

I doubt we would see this project published anywhere else but online.

GA is a great publication. Unfortunately my access to those journals is no more - after 4 decades of service the Prairie Avenue Bookshop closed its doors on Sept. 1. A sad day indeed, but telling about bookshops when PA Books has to close its doors even in Chicago. I'll to check to see if Amazon has them.... but that is a journal I prefer to see before I buy.
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I could never afford to purchase such publications, but I am fortunate to live near a major city library. I have yet to take my camera to the periodical reading room, but I anticipate doing so, as my lttle 2 MP Canon makes better copies than most copiers and scanners !

I have searched online and find only this same set of photos -- even on sites that purport to cover home design and interiors. . .

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Yeah... GA is pricey and I don't have any issues in my library. I can typically find the same buildings in GA in other books, such as monographs of the individual architect. Hence - why I prefer to see a copy of GA rather than buy it blind.
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BTW, if you see a particular project or firm you'd really like to see covered in more depth, don't hesitate to suggest it to us at AW.

Of course I won't guarantee we'll follow every suggestion... but we do have resources and capabilities to go get the stuff that's worthwhile. And we really do love to hear what people think! Post around here, or drop a note to the team email, "editor@architectureweek.com".
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